Saturday, May 22, 2010

If I get a C am I screwed from Ivy Leagues?

So I got my semester grades and Im a junior here they are:





AP/IB English 3 B


AP US History B


IB Physics C (73ish)


AP French 4 B


ASB (Leadership) A


Math IB SL (Calculus/Prob/Stat) B


Basketball A





Theyre pretty Bad I know but is this a turn off to say Ivy League schools because I know that colleges grade apps somewhat hollisticly. My frosh-soph grades are exceptional but this year was a tough load. Assuming good SAT scores ( i got a 2200) and good ap ib test scores, will a c kill me????


Its really worrying me, I would do anythig to get into Wharton or a good school for business.

If I get a C am I screwed from Ivy Leagues?
not necessarily
Reply:Getting Cs is not a good sign that you can get into Ivy League. If you have one C, then you must do well in other classes, basically straight As, but you already have 4 Bs.


This is tough.
Reply:your state school is a great school, and you need to revise your attitude. I went to university of michigan for undergraduate, and then wayne state university (a much less presitigous school in downtown detroit, MI) for graduate school. i found that the caliber of A students in my classes to be very similar, although most people i met at UofM were MUCH wealthier than those i met at Wayne State





the point? people hype schools more than ever now, its really stupid. the people that LOSE are high school students trying to find the best fit, especially those lost in the erroneous (albeit logical) conclusion that lower rated schools must offer some sort of inferior education.





a school's rating is derived from a host of factors of which no small part is the endowment. how does that affect your freshman econ. class? it doesn't! guess what? the only thing that gets padded by your Ivy education is your debt, your ego, and the way your degree is viewed by others (i admit this last one has some importance, but it is by no means of paramount importance).





what probably will happen if go to an ivy league school (which is really only a sports league) is that you will go to a STRONG PRIVATE SCHOOL, instead of a STRONG PUBLIC SCHOOL. you should focus on finding a strong school that suits your needs. there are many more good choices for you than just the 6 ivy schools that have B-schools.





it is up to you to mature enough through your junior year to seek out which schools those are, and apply to them as well (one C will not kill your application at most schools).
Reply:The fact that you have taken difficult classes is impressive. However, the point of impressing the admissions committee with IB/AP classes is to earn no less than a B. However, I recall you can write about that particular grade in the common application section dedicated to extra-information.


I am sure that with an excellent extra-circular resume as well as SAT scores and stellar recommendations, you stand a decent chance.


The only advice I can give to you is to make yourself stand out. I have seen people with mediocre grades and scores get into the Ivys. This solely lay with the face that their essays and recommendations and activities told a different more appealing tale than grades and other quantitate factors.


Good luck! And remember, everything happens for a reason--just make the best out of it. And never be afraid to badger your college counselor, that is is what they are there for.
Reply:It will be a struggle to get into an Ivy League school with these grades, but not impossible. You really did take a very very difficult course-load, but they still will be looking at your application fairly quickly and might not take that into account. If you can bring those grades up this semester, that will help a LOT. Schools notice improvement, and if they see that just one semester is off, they might well look past it (especially if, as you say, you get good SAT scores and good AP test scores). Unfortunately, it is not just the "c" that is a problem -- they get a lot of applications from straight-A students, so you need to work on getting all of the grades up. And you need to stay involved in non-academic pursuits of some sort. Ivy League schools like to see people who exemplify leadership and deep involvement in activities (as opposed to resume padding with "membership" in different groups). Also, if you can write a great essay for your application showing how you are unique and why they should admit you over their other boring applicants, you can do well in spite of a less than perfect record.





Finally, even if you don't get into an Ivy League school, there are some excellent non-Ivies that can give you an excellent education and are well-respected. Fortunately and unfortunately, your high school record counts for almost nothing once you're in college. If you want to go to Wharton for an MBA, they will look to your college record and not your high school record (and again they will look for good grades and leadership-- you don't have to go to an Ivy League undergraduate school to prove yourself there).





Check out books that must exist in your school about the average gpas and test scores for teh schools you are interested in. It will help you get a sense of how realistic it will be for you to go there. At the same time, keep up your hopes by remembering that those numbers are Averages, which means that around half the admittees have lower numbers than what you see.
Reply:I am senior in high school and i just finish applying for universities ( UIC, Depaul, etc). I can tell you from my experiences colleges mostly average everything out. If you don't have such good grades but you have and exceptional personal essay, it will helped you out a lot. They also want to know if you are in clubs or sports. You don't necessarily have to be in 10 clubs , just that you are committed and that you have a position in the club such as vice president. To make things shorts, start talking to the council in the university you want to go, and find out what they want, and it will show them you really want to go their. They also check the level of the course you are taking and they take that to consideration.


You should tried taking easier classes in your senior year. Just doing the personal essay is like having a part time job.


Before I forget.Wow your classes are hard. The hardest course i took junior year was AP Microeconomics.
Reply:Sorry, Ivies only accept around 10-18% of applicants. That means only the best of the best get in.


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